Monday, March 29, 2010

Ruffian/Parkside Restaurant?

Hi all....I%26#39;ve heard of this restaurant in Queens (maybe Howard Beach) called Parkside. Ever heard of it? Any thoughts?





Ruffian, maybe you can help you seem to know all things NY.





Thanks,



Kelly



Ruffian/Parkside Restaurant?


The Parkside Restaurant is located in Corona off of 108th Street.





There is a very small park directly across the street where on warmer days men gather to play Bocci.





The restaurant itself is locally quite popular and has a reputation which goes beyond the borders of queens.





The decor is fairly simple and assuming, the service good, and the cuisine--as I suggested--is considered quite good.





I%26#39;ve just noticed that you%26#39;re from L.I. so the commute via the L.I.E to the 108th street exit isn%26#39;t a dealbreaker unless you%26#39;re from eastern suffolk.





All in all, I think I would put the Parkside in the top five restaurants in Queens.





I have a very good memory of this place and have been there numerous times.





A few years ago I brought some guests from New Mexico who were staying at the Kitano on Park Avenue to the Parkside so they could have the experience of a ';Scorcese neighborhood';.





After we were seated one of my friends said to the waiter,





';We%26#39;ve come all the way from Albuquerque just to dine jere.';





The waiter%26#39;s eyebrows arched with incredulity and said,





';How did you know of us?';





My friend said (pointing to me),





';He recommended you highly.';





The waiter leaned over as if to share a secret with the three women and whispered with just the right tone of deference,





';Your friend is VERY well known here.';





I don%26#39;t know who was more surprised to hear such a thing--me or them. Obviously--and this might upset some--I felt obliged to tip the man very well.



Ruffian/Parkside Restaurant?


I%26#39;ve eaten at the Parkside four times. Not one of those times did it ever live up to its reputation. Parkside is considered to be THE Italian restaurant in Queens, possibly the best restaurant of all of the Queens restaurants. I have no idea why.





I found the food okay but nothing special. The decor is less special. And unless you know the owner or the Maitre D%26#39; you can wait for a table longer than it took them to count the votes in Florida in the 2000 election.





However, the place is always packed. Maybe it%26#39;s me. I just don%26#39;t get it. I%26#39;ve found any number of Italian restaurants in Queens and Long Island that I consider far superior to Parkside. Giulio %26amp; Cesare in Westbury and Tesoro in Westbury are both superior, as is La Pace in Glen Cove, to name just a few. Try it and post your opinion here. I could be wrong. I was wrong once before. I think it was 1962. August. So it could happen again.




You%26#39;re funny Ruffian. Thanks for 2 totally conflicting opinions.



Will be dining at Parkside 4/15 with friends just to try something new, we usually stick to LI places, although I live in the 5 Towns so I don%26#39;t know why we don%26#39;t hit Queens more often. Anyway, I%26#39;ll be sure to let you both know what I think. I%26#39;m sort of easy to please...my husband, (whose grandparents are both Sicilian) less so.





Thanks!





Kelly




A restaurant always lives up to its reputation but what it can do is fall short of our ';expectations';--which can be sabateurs that often contribute to exaggerated disappointment or on the other side of the coin, invite us to give an inflated review of a modest experience.





(I learned this years ago when New Yorkers were tripping over themselves trying to get tickets to the ';Phantom of the Opera';



--an event whose opening I now can see was remarkably similar to the megahype surrounding ';Christo%26#39;s Gates';.)





When one enters a restaurant expecting the extraordinary (or is some cases the otherworldly) enjoyment can die a slow, painful death.





The slightest failure of a restaurant to meet our unrealistic experiences is enough to bring out the wrath of the inner critic.





The Parkside%26#39;s reputation is deserved. Why? Because it passes the test of any successful restaurant: it has a large, loyal clientel that keeps growing and coming back year after year.





I%26#39;ve no doubt that there is better food served in Queens at more than one place. But that too is the case with the River Cafe in Brooklyn which few critics would place on their ';Top-20'; list for food alone.





But the River Cafe is about more than food and so, too, is the Parkside.





The Parkside is about neighborhood--the Christmas lights in the small park in July beneath which members of the local Italien clubs play Bocci. It%26#39;s about waiting in line at the Corona Ice King. It%26#39;s about being served by tuxedoed waiters. It%26#39;s about getting that Tony Soprano feeling.





The biggest mystery about the Parkside to me is why anyone who had been disappointed three times would subject themselves to a fourth evening of disenchantment.




The disappointment was, as you stated Carpenter, more in terms of not living up to the reputation. The food was fine...just not on the otherworldly plane I anticipated based upon all the rave reviews I%26#39;d heard.





The reason I kept returning was largely because girlfriend and I often used to go out with her cousin and her husband who were regulars there and rarely wanted to go anyplace else. Like I said...it could be me. Maybe it is all it%26#39;s cracked up to be and it just went over my head.




It%26#39;s not you, Ruffian; it%26#39;s what you were lead to believe about the place by people who perhaps haven%26#39;t had your experiences at places more deserving of such tremendous word-of-mouth.





Zagat%26#39;s surveyed contributors give it a mindblogging ';24'; for cuisine which places it a whisker from that of Erminia and superior to I Trulli or Il Tinello.





My only explanation for this is ';relativity';. Diners from Nassau or Queens compare Parkside to other known venues outside the city and the reviews are artificially inflated.





Perhaps what we have here is the ';Big-fish-in-a-small-pond'; phenomenon.





If the owners of Parkside opened a second restaurant like the first in Manhattan, I%26#39;m guessing the buzz about it would be somewhat more muted.



August Honeymoon in NYC

Can anyone please recommend an iteniary and a hotel to stay at for our honeymoon in August. We will be arriving on a Friday night in August and leaving Sunday evening. My finance and I ware in our late 20%26#39;s and have never been to NYC. Lookinf for a nice hotel but nothing too expensive. Would also like to do all the sight seeing and possibly take in a play.





thank you all for your help.



August Honeymoon in NYC


Are you talking about just a weekend? If yes, there are lots of hotels that offer weekend specials. Not too expensive is a relative term. How much do you want to spend per night???





If it%26#39;s for a weekend, you might have a look at the Park South Hotel (parksouthhotel.com) Look under their special offers. They have a weekend pkg. that includes theater tickets.





If you%26#39;re really looking for an inexpensive ';deal'; bidding on Priceline for a 4* hotel would be a great idea. Go to biddingfortravel.com and read their Faq under hotels and check out the prices people post they%26#39;ve gotten.





A city pass (citypass.com) would probably be a good investment for you. It includes a lot of the major sights and also allows you to jump qs so you don%26#39;t waste time.

City Pass

Is the city pass worth getting for mom and 12 year old son?





City Pass


Hi





I think that the topic has been covered before. If you go to all the places that is included in the City Pass then I guess it is worth it. But you have to look at their homepage and see if you think you will go to all the places that is included. My wife and I did buy a city Pass when we went to NYC in July last year but we didn%26#39;t visit all the places that were included so I%26#39;m not sure if it was worth it from an economical point of view. I have posted a trip report with pictures from our trip to NYC on my homepage http://gardkarlsen.com. Maybe you can find some useful information there :-)





Regards



Gard



City Pass


Figure out which of the things on the pass you were already planning to do and how much it would have cost for the 2 of you. If the entry fees are more than the Citypass than it%26#39;s worth it. Just be aware that while the Citypass includes general entrance into the Museum of Nat. History, it doesn%26#39;t include entry into the Space Museum or the IMAX movie. If you%26#39;re buying it primarily for that, you might be better off buying a combo ticket at the museum for all their things.





If you were planning to go to MOMA anyway, I think it will be worth it b/c the entry fee there is steep ($20 for adults). Also remember the CityPass allows you to jump qs I think.




I think it%26#39;s worth it. I%26#39;ve never used everything on it in one visit, but the convenience and savings for the benefits I have used make it a value to me.




Definitely worth it. My daughter and wife visired all 6 attractions in a week and I saw 5. They saved $52.50 and managed to jump the queue at the ESB as well as getting a free Audio Tour.




If you%26#39;re like me, you want to get things in advance. Many, if not all, of the sights have you pay a fee for reservations on the Internet so the price would actually be higher than just the entrance charge. That makes the City Pass an even better deal IF you visit all the sights.




If you are staying for more than 3 days, you might also want to consider getting a %26#39;new york pass%26#39;. They are more expensive, but they included a longer list of places with paid admission.





We bought a 7 day pass for $121.50 when we went in Sept 04. Had we paid admission to all the places we visited, we would have paid at least $90 more per person.




my question is, i know a lot places you have to have reservations. how does that work with the nypass?




Can you post the web site of where to purchase the city pass?



Thanks a bunch! ;-)




newyorkpass.com




sorry heres the ';city'; pass





http://citypass.com/city/ny.html

visiting manhattan for the first time on thursday march 3rd

my self and wife are visisting manhatten for the first time on thursday 3rd of march for 6 days.



i have studied these forums for the past 3-4 months and found them an invaluable source of information.



even though i havent posted any questions for a while,and only a hand full in any case,i feel i have enough knowledge from everyone who participates on this forum to make our visit a more memorable occasion before we even set foot on the plane to take us there.



i will certainly post a review of our trip after we have returned and answer any questions anyone may have about it.



we are flying with american airlines,booked tel aviv to pick us up and staying at The Barclay.



apart from that we both cant wait to arrive and thank this website for making it a lot easier.



visiting manhattan for the first time on thursday march 3rd


Have a great time, just want to advise you to bring your winter gear %26amp; nice, warm waterproof shoes or boots, as we in the midst of a snowstorm and although the weather is going to improve, it will be wet, so be prepared.





I am sure that you will have a great time....don%26#39;t hesitate to post any last minutes things you need to know!



visiting manhattan for the first time on thursday march 3rd


thank you NYCGIRL,i will post a review when i get back

NFL Fans coming to NYC

Both my boys are avid sports fans and as already posted we have tickets for the Basketball while in NYC, however, they would like to look round an NFL Stadium to see how it compares to the Football grounds they visit over here. Hopefully this is possible? Anyone any ideas as I can%26#39;t find the info on the web. I also agree a search would be great as I spent 3 hours going through pages the other night!!



NFL Fans coming to NYC


Your only practical possibility is Giants Stadium at The Meadowlands. It%26#39;s in East Rutherford, New Jersey and they do have tours. However, there is a catch. To participate in one of their tours you need to have your own transport (I believe because the complex is so large). You would almost certainly need a car to get there as well as buses from Manhattan only run if there is a game on. I tried to organise something this February but, in the end , the logistics defeated me. They do have a website however and if you go here: http://www.meadowlands.com/tours.asp?navID=7 you%26#39;ll find out all there is to know about their tours. Good luck!



NFL Fans coming to NYC


Thanks maidstoneNic, I was beginning to realise it would be difficult to arrange but my boys have told me there are 2 NFL teams in NY so hopefully the other one might be easier to sort out. I loved your report last night and we all laughed when you said Jack was stopped wearing a Gillingham shirt. We are coming to Gillingham on 16/04 for the game vs Crewe after we get back from NY on the 8th ready for Spurs vs Newcastle on 9th!! Any help to a fellow Brit would be much appreciated.




Your boys are half-right. There are 2 teams - the Giants and the Jets. The only problem is they ground share and both play at The Meadowlands. The Jets are hoping to build a new stadium in the city in a few years%26#39; time but I don%26#39;t think they can come up with enough cash. I did notice you can do a virtual tour - this might be as close as you can come to the real thing.



Hope you enjoy the Gills v Crewe - they%26#39;re on a high now having just disposed of Wigan (well, that%26#39;s Jack%26#39;s story and he%26#39;s sticking to it!).



To be pedantic, you might like to tell your boys that there is only one NFL team in New York and that%26#39;s Buffalo - the Giants and the Jets both play in New Jersey despite being the New York Giants and the New York Jets. Confusing isn%26#39;t it? (That%26#39;s why they named it twice)




Thanks going to watch Spurs beat Notts Forest now. Husbands laughed at your Bufalo comment!! But informs me its up state. Tell Jack it was a good win but we are still 9 points ahead and not in the drop zone.